Real People Podcast with Dr Fiona Kerr + Steve Sammartino

From the Real People Podcast website:
“Today on the Real People Podcast we are joined by Dr Fiona Kerr, Founder and CEO of The Neurotech Institute, and leading futuristand author Steve Sammartino in our first double header with previous guests. Fiona was interviewed in episode 11 of Real People and Steve in episode 16.
This most certainly was an explosion of thinking. Fiona and Steve shared their observations of the world in chaos and what this means moving forward.
We discuss a huge amount in a rollercoaster chat. From digital sovereignty to how well Australia is performing at a global scale. Discussing the hunger games of the US and how a longer-term perspective can be learnt from places like Finland. We ponder is Australia more like the US or Europe? And, does Australia’s safe stability make us lucky or lazy? We discuss systems thinking and blind spots. What future capitalism will look like. And, the high likelihood we will just slot back into comfortable old ways. Even with the pause during COVID-19 to slow down and think about better ways moving forward.
Real People Podcast is a podcast hosted by Jason Dunstone, the founder and managing director of Square Holes, 25 years conducting research and interviews with average and not so average people, as well as interviews with key leaders such as innovators, politicians, scientists and experts. He has have been lucky to meet such wonderful and intelligent people, and have such fascinating discussions, but these are often largely deciphered down to research findings, insightful quotes, statistics et cetera for reports. Real People opens up such conversations for people like you”
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